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Riding a scooter has definitely changed my life in China. It&#;s quicker than taking the bus, cheaper than buying a car, less annoying than chain-smoking taxi drivers, and more efficient than crowded subways. I&#;m actually to the point now that I cannot even imagine what life would be like without my beloved scooter, I absolutely love it! For those considering a new method of transportation, here are some tips on life with a scooter in China.
Deal or no deal?
Every town has their go-to scooter guy, and every mega-city that permits scooters has a shop on just about every corner. Once you&#;ve found the place, it&#;s time to consider a price. One of the most popular brands amongst expats these days is the Vespa-style from Yatian (this is the one I drive). The standard battery that comes with this model lasts about 40-60 km per full charge, and it costs 2,500 &#; 3,500 RMB, depending on factors like seat length, storage, tire size, etc.
Another popular brand is the Vespa model from Benzhou. The price is more or less the same as the aforementioned style, though some bigger models can go up to 4,000 RMB. The battery power and quality is also on par with Yatian&#;s. A cheaper option is the 500w Vespa scooter from Yongkang Flade Motor. It runs from 1,500 RMB and up, but the battery doesn&#;t get you as far and it&#;s smaller than some of the other types out there.
Helpful hint: No matter which one you pick, always bargain to knock off the price, and be sure to give it a test run around the block before handing any money over.
Pimp my ride
You&#;ll need to purchase a few other items as well, like a helmet, lock and charging chord. It&#;s not required to wear a helmet, but it&#;s most certainly recommended (no matter how dorky they look). They run for about 100 kuai and it&#;s best to have one that covers the entire head and face with a visor. The charging wire is absolutely necessary so make sure not to leave without one. The salesman should give you the proper chord that matches your battery type, and it should never be more than 100 kuai.
The lock is also an absolute must. As safe as China may be, scooter theft is incredibly common. If fact, my friend just got his brand spanking new scooter stolen after two months of owning it. He even had a lock on it! Get a lock long enough to tie to a pole and park it in a garage or off a main street when leaving it overnight. During the day, some busy areas of town have an area where you can park your scooter with a security guard. It costs one kuai or less to leave it for the day, but you should still place your lock on it. Unfortunately, there is no insurance you can place on a stolen scooter, so be careful!
The most important accessory is the battery, not just because it&#;s what makes you go, but also because they come in different modules. You&#;ll have to choose between a removable battery or built-in one. If there is a charging dock near your house, a built in one might be a nice option. If you&#;re like me and don&#;t, you&#;ll need a removable one that you can take out and bring into your room for overnight charging.
To ride or not to ride
If you&#;re living in Chongqing or Shenzhen, stop reading this article. These major cities have outlawed scooters, as it&#;s nearly impossible navigating the steep streets with an electric scooter in Chongqing and they&#;re responsible for 15% of road deaths in Shenzhen. In Guangzhou, the city proposed a ban in which enraged some citizens so bad that they attacked local police stations. The decision has been put on hold indefinitely.
In Shanghai, authorities are looking to gradually phase scooters out of the city within a few years. In accordance with this new policy, when you purchase a scooter you&#;ll also need to obtain a license number &#; it&#;s a little blue box the size of a thumb that they tie around your handle bar. If you don&#;t have this and are stopped by the cops, or if the patrolmen see your ride parked outside without a tag, they will confiscate it. It&#;s also worth mentioning that gas powered bikes are illegal in Shanghai (despite still having quite a few on the road) and there are certain streets in which you cannot drive &#; take Huaihai Lu for example. Ask your local friends about specific scooter laws in your town.
On a more humorous note, you&#;ve probably seen entire family generations on top of scooters &#; mom, grandma, two kids, dog, husband and random stranger all pilled on top of the same scooter. This is illegal. If you have the intention of carpooling your entire neighborhood around town, it may be better just to get a car. The max amount of people you can have on a scooter is two, nothing more.
Safety first
If you get into an accident, there are a few things to keep in mind. If it&#;s your fault and not too serious, you will most likely have to pay the other person for damages. This happened to me not to log ago: I was riding in the opposite bike lane about to turn into a shop and some guy blindsided me. I refused to pay because he was the one who hit me, so he called the police to arbitrate. After he explained his story, and I explained mine, the cop along with a few bored bystanders decided that it was indeed my fault. I ended up paying 500 RMB.
If you are the victim, the odds are stacked against you as an expat. You can try to demand money, but with Chinese street justice, you&#;ll be lucky if you can persuade the onlookers that you were truly not in the wrong. I&#;d suggest asking for a few hundred kuai, nothing too much if it&#;s a small accident, then get on your way. If it&#;s something more serious and you&#;re truly in the clear, then by all means argue your case. This happened with my friend, and he was able to get 2,000 RMB because his suit was ripped and scooter severely damaged.
A good piece-of-mind measure to defend yourself against accidents and injury is insurance. You should always have medical insurance, especially if you have a scooter, period. Scooters can be very dangerous and repairing broken bones at an international hospital can cost an arm and a leg (no pun intended). It may also be a good idea to get risk insurance that will reimburse you if you have to pay for the damage of someone else&#;s scooter. Talk to your financial advisor or insurance provider for more options, you&#;ll thank me later.
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Chalo said:
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50 mph on flat ground takes over W at the tire.
So that's at least 120A from the 48V battery to the controller if you're lucky. At that point, 72V x 80A is probably easier and cheaper. 120V x 50A? Something along these lines.
With most electric vehicles, it's best to have a top speed that's as close to your cruising speed as you can stand. That way you can be in your efficient operating conditions most of the time. It also means you won't sacrifice acceleration and climbing ability that you use frequently to buy some top speed that you use infrequently.50 mph on flat ground takes over W at the tire.So that's at least 120A from the 48V battery to the controller if you're lucky. At that point, 72V x 80A is probably easier and cheaper. 120V x 50A? Something along these lines.With most electric vehicles, it's best to have a top speed that's as close to your cruising speed as you can stand. That way you can be in your efficient operating conditions most of the time. It also means you won't sacrifice acceleration and climbing ability that you use frequently to buy some top speed that you use infrequently.
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Very interesting suggestions thanks Chalo. From the looks of things, I can fit 200 x @ 7.3A Cells in the case so the options I have are:48V: 13S 15P = 73AH & 110A72V: 20S 10P = 49AH & 73AI'm leaning towards the 48V Build for simplicity and convenience. Here in the UK, there are plenty of 36/48V motors sold on eBay with next or within the week delivery. Used motors are even cheaper such as 48V @ W but I will buy new. 72V this I know I could build but I'm not fancying the task of wire management of the BMS. Neither are there many spare parts here without ordering from China and such.I like the 13S Build since I could fold over 7 and 6 on top of each other then there will be a nice space for the BMS to go and make it a perfect rectangle. Quick drawing, red block is the BMS: https://imgur.com/a/6JNwT4DI think honestly maybe the W I will just opt for since I will only ever upgrade it if I move out of London since I will need the motorway and such in the future that is.The motor is easily changeable, not the battery. I really don't want to make another or re customise it. I'm therefore reluctant to pick:48V: 13S 15P = 73AH & 110AThen have a 80-100A BMS and currently with the W use a 30A controller. This way I can always upgrade the controller and motor if needed future.But upon researching more I'm learning the negative of this is that with too high current I will need bigger wires and connectors and such which add more to costs. So I can see the advantages of getting higher Voltage compared to solely increasing the Amps. One site is suggesting at least 2AWG wire for a 100AMP kit.These W motors look like a tank, combined with the Enduro frame it's a heavy build and I really don't want the extra weight just to end up only using max W out of it when I could go for a lighter W motor. I wish there was like the Sur Ron frame available to buy that isn't so expensive. The Sur Ron frame price alone with shipping is going to cost near the full price of this Enduro build.I now need to learn how to lace motors for knowledge and how to set up lighting system using relays and such which I am not looking forward to either but hopefully will be enjoyable once I understand it fully. :lol:
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