Piston Material - The Home Machinist!

26 Aug.,2024

 

Piston Material - The Home Machinist!

Post by 318J » Mon Feb 21, 1:04 pm

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A quick search of this forum hasn't turned up much discussion on this specific subject, so I thought I'd start one.

I need to replace both pistons (~3" dia.) on a locomotive I'm helping rebuild. Another locomotive in the club is having its pistons replaced as well, for the second time now. The gentlemen involved in that other project are steadfast proponents of using aluminum for the pistons, in spite of those aluminum pistons having siezed and scored the cylinders once already. (For whatever reason, lubricator failure, improper clearances, ect. - I've never been sure of, or told for sure what happened) Its been suggested that I do the same for the locomotive I am working on. I'm not so easily sold.

I don't see (and haven't been told by these gentlemen) any real benefit to aluminum aside from it being a softer material than the cylinder wall, in the event of piston ring failure, ect. I know bronze pistons are not uncommon either. Since when in operation, and when properly built, the piston rides on the piston rings, and never touches the cylinder wall, the piston material shouldn't mater too much, am I right in that thinking?

Has anyone here decided to use pistons made from aluminum or another metal? And if so, what was your reasoning for that material selection?

I'm of the opinion that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Aluminum pistons just seems to be the latest fad of reinventing the wheel. A properly constructed piston of more traditional cast iron or steel with correct clearances and rings should preform just as well, as time has tested and shown in numerous locomotives. But, I'd at least like to investigate the idea before I commit to building them.

Thanks for everyone's input and advice.

-Sam
Boilermaker, Pipefitter, former Railroader
"Preserving the Past and Ensuring Our Future"

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